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The Topological Group That Must Be Discrete

Let GG be a topological group (a group that is also a topological space, where multiplication and inversion are continuous). Suppose GG has a subset UU that is open, and that UU contains no element other than the identity ee that has finite order (i.e., no non-identity element gโˆˆUg \in U satisfies gn=eg^n = e for some nโ‰ฅ1n \geq 1).

Now consider a different scenario: suppose GG is a topological group and {e}\{e\} is an open set (the trivial subgroup is open).

Prove that GG must be discrete.

Then use this to answer: why is Q\mathbb{Q} (with the subspace topology from R\mathbb{R}) not a discrete topological group under addition, even though (Q,+)(\mathbb{Q}, +) is a perfectly good group?

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Answer: Open Identity Forces Discrete Topological Group

Key Idea / Intuition

In a topological group, the topology is "homogeneous" โ€” it looks the same at every point, because left-translation gโ†ฆagg \mapsto ag is a homeomorphism. So if one point (the identity) has an open neighborhood, you can translate that neighborhood to make every singleton open. Discreteness then follows immediately. The Q\mathbb{Q} example grounds the abstraction: singletons in Q\mathbb{Q} are never open in R\mathbb{R}'s topology, so the hypothesis fails, and indeed Q\mathbb{Q} is not discrete.


Formal Proof / Solution

Setup. Recall that in a topological group GG, for any fixed aโˆˆGa \in G, the left-translation map La:Gโ†’G,La(g)=agL_a : G \to G, \quad L_a(g) = ag is a homeomorphism (it is continuous with continuous inverse Laโˆ’1L_{a^{-1}}).

Step 1: Every singleton is open.

Suppose {e}\{e\} is open in GG. Let gโˆˆGg \in G be any element. We want to show {g}\{g\} is open.

Apply the homeomorphism LgL_g: Lg({e})={gโ‹…e}={g}.L_g(\{e\}) = \{g \cdot e\} = \{g\}.

Since LgL_g is a homeomorphism and {e}\{e\} is open, its image {g}\{g\} is open.

Step 2: Conclude GG is discrete.

Since every singleton {g}\{g\} is open, every subset SโІGS \subseteq G is a union of open sets: S=โ‹ƒgโˆˆS{g},S = \bigcup_{g \in S} \{g\}, so SS is open. Thus every subset of GG is open, which is exactly the discrete topology.

โ– \blacksquare


Why Q\mathbb{Q} is not discrete.

In Q\mathbb{Q} with the subspace topology from R\mathbb{R}, the open sets are intersections of open intervals with Q\mathbb{Q}. Every open set in Q\mathbb{Q} is infinite โ€” no singleton {q}\{q\} is open (since any open interval around qq contains other rationals). In particular, {0}\{0\} is not open in Q\mathbb{Q}.

By the theorem above (contrapositively), Q\mathbb{Q} is not discrete. And indeed it isn't: every neighborhood of 00 contains infinitely many other rationals, so we cannot isolate any point.


Conceptual takeaway. In a topological group, the topology is completely determined by the neighborhoods of the identity (you can translate any neighborhood of ee to a neighborhood of any gg). So "the identity is isolated" is equivalent to "every point is isolated" โ€” a beautiful rigidity that has no analogue in general topological spaces.

Source: Munkres, Topology; Lee, Introduction to Topological Manifolds

Type: topologySource: Munkres, Topology; Lee, Introduction to Topological ManifoldsEdit on GitHub โ†—